Here’s a clean, readable transcript of your conversation (with timestamps removed for better flow):
Mac: Go ahead. We’ll be orange today.
Mike: Here’s the question for today. As a nation, do we deserve a president like Donald Trump?
Mac: Yeah, I posted something the other day on Facebook from the Greg Gutfeld Show. He has this marquee that comes up with Trump on it that says, “We don’t deserve him.” A couple hours later, my son-in-law texted me and said, “Are you seeing that you went viral?” I thought it was a fluke because I just posted it myself — no big share from someone else. Now, of course, 99% of the comments are negative. There are 761 comments and only one share. If you read them, they’re really ugly. People calling me a dumbass, and everybody’s talking about the Epstein files. I asked artificial intelligence how this happens, and it basically said it’s a secret and it just happens. So there you have it.
Mike: The interesting thing to me is that people can have their opinions about Donald Trump and the job he’s done as president. What I don’t think you can dispute is that, unlike most traditional politicians, Donald Trump doesn’t avoid the tough issues. When there’s a tough issue, he faces it head-on. He attacks it, tries to figure out what the problem is, and works to resolve it. That’s a quality of leadership that’s often missing in our political arena.
Whether you like him a lot or hate Donald Trump, you cannot dispute that he rushes headlong into the most difficult issues and tries to resolve them in America’s favor — even if it’s his view of America’s best interest.
The Iran situation is a perfect example, but it’s more than that. I just read a story about the nation spending money to repair and clean the Reflecting Pool for the 250th anniversary of America. They arrested five or six people for vandalism. What benefit is there to damaging an American icon right before this celebration? It’s between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial.
Mac: You’re thinking like a normal human being. Trump said they found a knife used to make a 250-foot slice in the repair. People who hate Trump want everything he touches to fail, but why choose that particular way to protest?
Mike: A lot of this started with George Floyd and continued with people tearing down statues. Over 200 statues and monuments have been defaced. The left and the Democrat Party are trying to create a kind of Soviet socialist revolution. 66% of Democrats view socialism favorably, and the numbers go up with “democratic socialism.”
We can argue about the labels, but the core ideas are the same: confiscate from the rich and redistribute wealth. There are real problems with the wealth gap and young people struggling to afford homes, but we’ve had tough economic times before — like in 1976 under Carter — and we didn’t tear everything down.
Apartment rents are coming down nationally about 4.5%, and in cities with high illegal immigrant populations, they’re down 14–21%.
Mac: Logic is the bane of my existence. Look at New York City. In the recent Democratic primary, three avowed socialists were elected. Since it’s heavily Democrat, winning the primary basically means winning the election. 40% of New York City residents were born outside the United States. Many come from different forms of government. Some, like Cubans in Florida, are strongly anti-communist, but others see socialism as the answer.
They vote for promises of more free things — free bus rides, etc. The income gap is large, and many don’t understand our system of government or capitalism.
Mike: When I was a kid in New York, 80% of the city was white. Today it’s 31%. That’s changed the culture dramatically. New York still has amazing food and restaurants from all over the world, but when you accept drug use, mental illness on the streets, and support people who could work but don’t, you get more of that. Whatever you promote and pay for, you get more of.
Mac: Education is another big issue. A lot of the negative comments call me uneducated, but when you engage with them, they often lack substance — just name-calling. I was fortunate; my grandmother was a school teacher and taught me to read early. That changes a child’s life. Even with AI today, teach your kids to read and think.
I don’t look down on poor people or addicts — they didn’t choose that — but we still have to address the problems.
There was a time when Americans could at least agree on what the problems were, even if we disagreed on solutions. Today, with socialists gaining power, we can’t even agree on the problems.
Mike: The Biden administration had an open border policy. Many believe it was to create future Democratic voters. 40% of New York City residents and 44% of its workers were born outside the U.S. That changes voting demographics. Only about 10% voted in the primary, yet these socialists won.
Many Democrats supported this out of compassion, wanting to help less fortunate people. But we have to examine the long-term effects.
Mac: There are 11.6 million people legally waiting to come in who are being delayed because of the millions of illegals. It’s a catch-22 — businesses want the cheap labor for construction, but it strains housing, hospitals, and schools. Some Democrats essentially want a modern form of slavery with low-wage illegal labor.
Mike: Communists and socialists have plenty of experience with slaves. Our system is supposed to be a meritocracy where innovation is rewarded.
If America is so bad, why do millions want to come here? Soccer fans visiting for FIFA were amazed by simple things like big drinks and cheap hot dogs.
Mac: I remember traveling the world in the military and seeing how expensive gas and food were everywhere else. Americans don’t always appreciate what we have.
Mike: Going back to the original question — do we deserve Donald Trump? He’s not a politician. He’s a businessman who attacks problems directly instead of worrying about polls and re-elections. He sleeps very little and works constantly, unlike Biden who napped daily.
Mac: Bill Maher has said that when you meet Trump in person, he’s very different — conversational, self-deprecating, and cares. He doesn’t agree with all the policies, but he has respect for him as a person.
Mike: Do we deserve President Trump? It depends on whether you see America as a good, moral, Christian country — or as Barack Obama said, no longer a Christian country. Your answer to that will tell you a lot.
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