Summary:
In this episode of “Mac and Mike,” the hosts discuss the importance of common sense and critical thinking, sparked by a viral story about a pregnant woman overdosing on Tylenol to disprove a claim attributed to Donald Trump that it causes autism. The hosts question the wisdom of such actions, emphasizing a key theme: “Is it wise?” They explore how this simple question could prevent harmful decisions, using examples like the Tylenol incident, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and other impulsive behaviors driven by emotion or misinformation. They critique modern education for teaching “what to think” rather than “how to think,” contrasting it with their generation’s emphasis on logic and common sense. They also touch on the value of self-education, the pitfalls of lacking nuance in debates, and the need to remain calm and rational in confrontations. The discussion underscores the importance of pausing to consider the consequences of actions and the enduring relevance of common sense in decision-making.
Transcript
[Music] Hey everybody, welcome back to Mac and Mike. I’m Beas and that’s Butad.Wait a minute. I want to be Beas. You can be Butad. All right. Now, it’s Mac and Mike. So, uh, we’retogether again this week and, uh, we were discussing the various options as usual on the back porch and, um, one ofthe subjects that came up was the Tylenol issue and there are probably a lot of other issues, but um, why don’tyou just take it away and start wherever you want, brother? That’s the way it goes the best. Well, you know, I I heard this report about this young lady who 23years old who was pregnant and uh as the story was told on the internet, and you know, I saw it on the internet, so youknow, it has to be true. Uh but as the story was told, um this young womanwanted to prove Donald Trump wrong because of what he said in his speech the other day at the Charlie Kirk event,saying that Tylenol causes autism. So, she was trying to prove now she’spregnant and she’s trying to prove Donald Trump wrong. So, she overdoses onTylenol. Now, I don’t know if the story is true because we tried to test it byusing various um you know, by using Google and using Grock and using other, you know, search engines that would thatwould supposedly be able to find out the true story. But there was one report andum unverified which was amplified and and retold by many many other people. SoI don’t know if it’s true or not, but I was discussing this with Mike and he told me about a friend of his whose wifeposted on the internet something about Tylenol. And uh why don’t you tell thatstory because I thought your question that you asked her was the brilliant part of your conversation. Yeah. Well,she posted a meme of a Reese’s peanut butter cup with a um Tylenol pill in it.You know, it was supposed to be like Halloween symbolizing the razor blades that people used to think were being putin candy, which I understand never really happened. But, you know, so that ensued a discussion and I reposted acouple things and one of them was um who was the girl that was the swimmer? RileyGains. and she pointed out that a number of these girls are doing these Tik Toks where they’re taking Tylenol to proveTrump wrong to give him a symbolic middle finger. And I said, you know, doyou think this is wise? And she came back and, you know, she sent something else trying to prove that Tylenol isokay to take when you’re pregnant. And I said, well, that’s not I kept going back and forth like this. That’s not the point. is trying to give Donald Trumpthe middle finger by taking Tylenol that you don’t need. Uh, is that wise? Andshe never would answer. See, sometimes, and I also added like no matter what youbelieve, it it doesn’t matter whether you believe Trump’s full of it or not, it is it wise to take Tylenol, which weknow is responsible for 50% of liver problems in the United States. And Isaid, if you don’t believe me, Google it because Google says it. Rock says it, Jack GPT says it, everybody agrees. So,you know, it’s doing as much damage to your liver, I guess, as alcohol,maybe more. Maybe more. So, it doesn’t matter whether or not, and I don’t think Trumpshould have ever said anything about this personally, but the point is, you don’t provesomebody wrong by potentially harming yourself. And of course, Riley Gaines or somebody said, “Well, maybe Donald Trumpshould say breathing oxygen will kill you and maybe all the leftists will stop breathing.” So, I thought that wasrather humorous myself. So, anyway, that that was the thing. Is it wise?Yeah. And you see, Mike, that’s where you’re so brilliant. The question isn’tor shouldn’t be is Tylenol good or bad for you? Does Tylenol cause causeautism? Because you know you would look to medical journals for that kind of fact information, right? You would lookfor multiple studies. You would look for, you know, blind multiple outcome kind oftesting to see whether or not it actually did it. And and maybe that has all been done. I don’t know the answer to that. But what I loved about ourconversation was your simple question. Is that wise? And I think if we if weapplied that measuring stick to so many other things, you know, um the the theguy that assassinated Charlie Kirk, he he wrote on his casing of his bullet umsomething like eat this fascist or something like that. Yeah. Catch this fascist. Catch this fastest. You know, again,before you go and do that, if you just stop and ask yourself the question, is this wise? you know, um the the guy thatshot Trump at uh in Butler, Pennsylvania, and took off part of his ear. Imagine if that kid had said, “Isthis wise?” You know, that that the brilliance of your question is the simplicity of it. And if if people inall walks of life, in all realms of business and industry,if before you embark on a particular course of action, if you would just ask yourself that one simple almostoxymoronic question, is this wise? Is that wise? And you know, obviously thepeople who are not wise are not going to catch on is wise or not. But that’s what I love so much about your question. Andhow many people on the internet are sucking down handfuls of Tylenol tablets, which you know,most of them in their anonymity, no one’s going to know whether or notthey were giving the middle finger to what Trump said or not. All we’ll know for sure is is that they took handfulshandfuls of Tylenol tabs or caplets. And you would say to yourself, well, isn’tthe only person who’s at risk here is you? I mean, at the best case scenariois, aren’t you going to like do something bad maybe to your liver? Are you sure you want to do that kind ofthing, but it’s it’s more that again, I don’t want to get wrapped up in the Tylenol thing. What I loved about yoursimple retort to your friend’s wife was, “Is this wise?” We could use that in abillion different circumstances that here on earth. Yeah, I think about that often. Umyou a friend of mine used to say to her kids, ask yourself this one question, should Ibe here? That’s another good question. Should I be here? So when you’re you’re dealing especially with young people,but not just young people, uh you could apply this frankly to the January 6 crowd. Should should I be here? Um,what about 2 o’clock? Last call at a at a gin joint. You know, should I be here? And uh, everybody looks better at 2:00after you’ve had a night of drinking. And and you know, sometimes that leads to the question in the morning. Should Ibe here? Should I should I have been with this person? Um, yeah. I mean, Istopped going to bars and drinking a long time ago because when you’re young, it’s funny. There’s always somebodylooking for trouble. Somebody’s always drunk. Somebody’s always stupid. And so I said to myself, is it wise for me tobe here? And as especially as you get older and I said, ‘N no, it’s not wise for me to be here. So what’s funny to meis when Mike stated this very simple question and I and I let my mind roamwith that idea of is this wise? One of the first things that popped into my head was many, many, many, many yearsago, more than I care to count, Bill Cosby used to be just a comedian. He wasn’t a pariah. He wasn’t somebody whodrugged women, had sex with him. He was simply a funny guy. He was a comedian. And uh he had a TV show with I think itwas Robert Culp and it was was it I spy? I don’t know. It it was uh it was somekind of cloak and dagger thing. But anyways, Bill Cosby used to do these albums. When I say albums, I’m talkingabout pressed wax, you know, records for record playing. Many people won’t evenknow what the hell I’m talking about when I say this, but and one of the comedic acts he had was the question ofwhy is there air? And of course, Bill Cosby went to Temple University and as the story goes, he was dating abrilliant young woman who was into astrophysics or something. And uh he was a fizz major, you know, because he wason the football team and uh you know, coach brought me here to play football. So he his girlfriend would walk aroundthe the university and in their in their uh dorm rooms and in their apartment and saying things like, “Why is there air?”And the punchline to the story is the punch line to the joke is every fizzed major knows why there’s air. How thehell are you going to fill up your basketball or fill up your football if you don’t have air? Um and and that’s Iknow that question isn’t the same. Why is there air and is it wise? But it’s it’s the kind of thing that you don’thave to be some sort of brain to figure it out. You know, it’s a very easysimple question. Is that wise? And I think that we could avoid a lot of problems in this world if people justasked that question before they embarked on whatever it is that they want to do.Many times your course of action is not not a wise one. Now, the sad thing is it takes makingmistakes in your life to realize that these things aren’t wise. It takes some age. The problem I have is when you getto our age, when you meet people that haven’t learned that lesson, it makes you go, you know, they might have a highdegree, a PhD, but they’re really still kind of dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to it. And they don’t see causeand effect or relational things. You know, this relates to that. Alpha implies beta and non- beta impliesnon-alpha. Those kind of simple logical precepts that you should understand atleast by the time you in your mid20s you know even if you don’t understand a formula you understand if this is thatthen this thing is not that. Logic has long been the bane of my existence Mike because I see things that are illogicaland my mind won’t allow me to not think of them. Okay. If something strikes me as being illogical, my mind even if it’sworking in the background, even if I’m not consciously thinking of it, it’ll work in the background. Then this problem of why is that so illogical? Andand you know, I’ve known many people, people who are related to me, people whoI’ve worked with, people who I’ve met in in business and industry, and they have all these letters behind their name. Youknow, they’re um you know, they’re a doctor this or they have a PhD or they have an MBA. one of my one of my formerbosses, we got a uh a new employee who was a MBA student, right? Just graduatedtheir MBA. And my boss, who is a uh a really good guy, but and graduated fromthe local community college and lived in the west side of Hazelton, Pennsylvania, right? And this NBA student walks intohis office and it was a female. And she looks at him and he says, “Well, I just finished up my NBA.” and my boss lookedat her and said, “Huh, you don’t look tall enough to play in the NBA.” And I think that what I’m going for here is isthat education does not necessarilyequate to smart or common sense. Um, some of thepeople I’ve known that had the most letters behind their name,uh, they you use the term dumb as a box of rocks. I won’t say that. What I will sayis is that oftime times they lack common sense. You know, you you and I are the average average human being, averageAmerican look at that and say that’s dumb. But they don’t get it till after they run into the part that forces them tothink of. Yeah, I doing this was not smart. You know, they don’t have the common sense. As as the joke goes,common sense isn’t so common anymore, right? Yeah. A long time ago, I learned in science class how sooner or later,even an amoeba will work its way around an obstacle. Some people aren’t as smart as an amoeba. They just keep making thesame mistake over and over. That’s kind of related to the Einstein, I believe Einstein, you know, said, you know,what’s the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing, expecting different results. So yeah, we have to as we growin life, you know, hopefully we learn. There was a there was a man and I’ve said this before when I was young, helooked at me and he he knew that I was kind of out of control. And he said, you know, Mike, if you don’t start listening to older people, you’re not going tolive long enough to make all the mistakes you’re about to make. And it’s like, holy smokes, you know, I it sortof hit me between the eyes. I think it was one of the best things I ever heard because I respected the guy. And uh Istopped and I said, you know, I better maybe start listening to other people because what do any of us know that wedon’t learn from somewhere else? I mean, we have a certain amount of instinct. We can breathe, you know, but there’sreally not a whole lot. It doesn’t take a whole lot of brain power. It’s kind of like, you know, yeah, we can breathe. Our hearts beat,you know, they’re all the lizard brain. But, you know, what do we really know, any of us, that we didn’t learn fromsomeone or somewhere else? You know, I am a walking bushel basket of tritesayings, right? You know that I will use a quote often and almost like a daggeror a rapier, but one of my quotes that I like to repeat, although not as frequently as some others, is commonsense is not a flower that grows in every garden. You know, and of the two,if you would give me the choice, I would rather have common sense than having a PhD behind my name. I get a kick out ofthe fact that we, you know, we just lost Charlie Kirk, uh, president, CEO of Turning Point USA, and he turned thisTurning Point USA into from a an organization he started literally as a high school student. He turned it into ahuge operation with over 120 employees in 50 different states. And um, he hewent to one year of college, one year of university, he dropped out. And many of the debates that he was involved with,he were he was in debates with people who were theoretically much moreeducated than he was. But what he was proud of is is that he read like a 100books a year. Yeah. He was constantly reading, constantly challenging himself, pro constantly learning new things. And you know, ifyou go back into the history of the United States, far enough, right? Umthere was a time when there wasn’t a big university system and people did learnfrom reading books and you know you would see the doctors in the in you knowin the late 1700s early 1800s they didn’t go to school to learn how to be a doctor they would sit with you know theywould sit with another physician to learn and the physician would give them what medical journals or medical booksthat they had and you would learn by doing, which is a hard concept to follow in today’s medical world, right? I mean,we don’t let interns just willy-nilly uh deal with with patients problems or oruh prescribe medicines or or or or do surgery. But that was the way it washundreds of years ago. But the my the point I’m trying to get to is is that if you didn’t have common sense, if youdidn’t have a little bit of intelligence, if you weren’t able to read these books, you didn’t make it, right? You you didn’t hang out a shinglethat said you were an MD. And I think that there’s a lot to be said forthat self-education. You know, there are many sources of education that don’t require you to paymoney and go to the university and sit in a classroom. I would argue, and I don’t want to piss off anybody who’sgone to school for a long time and earn several degrees, but I would argue that it is the rare student who fails orflunks out of college. Usually what happens is if you show up to class andyou do all the work you’re required and you take the final test, you may get a Cminus, but you usually pass. Very few people uh actually fail. And I thinkthat, you know, when when you’re looking at it that way, you know, there’s the joke that says, “What what do you callthe individual who graduated medical school with a C average?” Doctor. Doctor. same as you call a guy thatgraduated with an Average, right? My my point being that what’s more importantin this world today. You know, the first boss that I had insales, had a college degree in marine biology.And I asked the guy one day, I said, “What the hell’s a guy with with marine biology degree being doingh overseeing all these huers salespeople that are just out there trying to, youknow, press hard three copies, you know, that kind of thing.” And he said, “Allan, have you ever thought about howhard it is to get a job in marine biology?” He said, “Unless you’re working at SeaWorld, there’s not a lotof places you can use that degree.” So, I I think that’s part of what I’mtalking about. You know, people go into college and get a degree in gender studies and then they work they end upworking at uh you know, Hershey chocolate factory, you know, projecting how many sales they’re going to havenext year in various product lines. Um and and not that gender studies is is ayou know, I don’t want to get hate mail from people saying you’re making fun of gender studies majors. No, I’m not. WhatI’m saying is is that there’s a certain amount of jobs in the world and there are some abilities that one needsregardless of whether or not you have a a degree in in that arena. You know, ifyou’re going to be a rocket scientist, yeah, you know, a a degree that’s thatthat that you know, engineering related or or rocket fuel, you know, some sort ofchemistry or whatever, chemistry, all those kinds of various that they’re handy in that area. But how many people considerdo you remember when the um was it Apollo 13 that had the problem?Yes. Houston, we have a problem. And there’s one scene in the movie and I think it’sa an actual retelling of a truth. One of the switches on the console, the controlconsole broke and the astronaut pulled out a pen and he stuck it down in thehole where the switch went and it actually was able to toggle the switch with this pen. Now, you don’t learn thatwhen you go to rocket scientist school, right? No. there was a guy with enough common sense to try something that hadworked for him before and that was part of the critical process that saved thoselives and and brought them brought them back to this earth. So is common sense an important factor? I would argue yes.And does it play into your statement during your yourconversation? Is that wise? Yeah, I think another factor is not just reading, which reading is important. AndI I my grandmother was a school teacher, got me reading before I even went to school and so I was far ahead ofeverybody else. The other thing is I I think the biggest thing in my personal life was understanding a few logicrules, being able to think, and then you have to sort of you can understand therules, but you can’t forget them. You have to apply them to conversations and what you hear and do critical thinkingand analyze and play it in your head. You know, we all talk to ourselves. You know, we have to be our own devil’sadvocate. You, you know, say, “Okay, I want to listen to this side. I’m going to argue in my own brain from thatperson’s perspective to see if there’s any merit because sometimes there is merit.” Okay? Sometimes the differenceis is not that the problem doesn’t exist but the solution evades us or the solution varies. So you know but alsologic you know understanding that you know we say when two ideas diametricallyoppose one of them is right the other is wrong they can’t both be right. But seethey have to be diametrically opposed perfectly. Sometimes there’s there’s this thing everybody forgets aboutnuance. And I see that so many times. Some things are not just diametricallyopposed. There there’s some nuance to the difference and you have to listen carefully and spot those things. Andoften times the other thing I see people doing is running off into non sequittors. There’s another big word.It’s it simply means it doesn’t follow. So you know you’re talking about this and they go over there.Like I was talking about is it wise trying to get the answer from somebody. Is it wise to take Tylenol to provesomebody else wrong and yet the person keeps going off into the other direction? It’s a it’s a nonsequitularargument. It’s like, no, that’s not what I’m saying. And that happens so many times. So, you got to bring be goodabout bringing gently bringing people back to the original question.What I like a lot is when people say that doesn’t pass the smell test. Yeah. or that doesn’t pass the common sensetest or that doesn’t pass the logic test or my Spidey sense or you know my Spidey and and the andthe point in all of those trite somewhat trit sayings is is that what people aresaying is it doesn’t make sense to me it doesn’t pass the common you know my my my common sense is violated by the theBS that you’re trying to to to feed me and I think that you know a lot of timeswe talk about uh today’s education that we’re teaching children things.You know, Susie has two mommies. We’re teaching children things, but we’re notteaching them how to think. We’re telling them what to think, but or we’re not telling them howto think. And I think our generation, Mike, different than today’s educationin maybe not post-secary, but in um in elementary and secondary schools,we’re teaching kids what to think, you know, and I I believe that the advantagethat people of our generation had was we were taught how to think. And that waspart of the common sense test. That was part of that it doesn’t pass the smell test. All those kinds of of sayingsbecause what you would be you would be handed information and then you’d beyou’d ask you’d be asked to work out the solution. I remember when I I was very young um in elementary school. I don’tremember what grade, but my teacher gave the class that classic, you know, the airplane is going to crash. There’s ninepassengers on board and there’s only four parachutes. whatever the numbers were, you know, there was some so andthey would give you the history of these of these nine people. You know, one is a a young mom who’s pregnant. So, they’replaying on we, you know, we have this affinity for the birth of the child and we want to procreate, we want to re andthen the other one was the 90year-old doctor who’s right on the verge of, youknow, he curing cancer, right? And you know they would go through all these stories and that exercisecauses even the young brain to think about what is more valuableto our society both individually and collectively. And those kinds of exercises I don’t believe we do those inclassrooms anymore. You know we’re not we’re not asking children to think about the problem. We’re telling them this isthe answer to the problem. And that’s true in a lot of like the new math that they do and some of the new uh you doyou know Mike I don’t believe they teach civics in school anymorethat was an important subject to to me anyways I mean learning learning about how our government works not that theyforced me to think that this was the right way but they told me how what theoutline was they told me what the parameters were and and and how it works and how we can get involved and how wecan make a difference Again, I don’t think we do that anymore. So, children are not being taught how to think, butrather they’re being taught what to think. There’s a limit to what those people taught what to think can dealwith the outside world. That again gets to your question. Is it wise?Is it w because they don’t have an answer to that. They’ve never been forced to to deal with that form of thequestion to arrive at the correct answer. They’ve been told, “Yeah, whenwhen President Trump tells you don’t eat eat Tylenol because it’s going to cause um autism, you go ahead and eat the damnTylenol cuz you hate Trump.” I mean, that’s literally the way we’re being we’re teaching it today. Well, see,that’s what I mean about nuance, you know? So, they weren’t even saying don’t use it at all. It’s like consult yourdoctor and use it sparingly. I think that’s prudent with any medicine because the old saying there’s a in every pillthere’s a little bit of poison is true. Yeah. And uh you know what you were talking about earlier is is a great example ofhow you can work with your children, your grandchildren. Um and that’s to ask them questions like you were outlining adifferent scenario of what’s called the trolley uh experiment. You know, who lives, who dies. But I find, you know,the Socratic method works really well, especially with kids. I always ask my grandkids questions. Well, what do youthink? You know, pop up. They ask me a question. Well, first before I answer,what do you think? See that just being receptive allows them to expressthemselves as well and then you can engage in a conversation. So, you know,the person that’s convinced best is the one that feels like they’ve come to their own conclusions, not had somebodyelse’s conclusions imposed on them. And of course, when we’re looking at, you know, politics, that’s that’s often theway a lot of people feel like you’re Trump is imposing. Biden is imposing.The Democrats, the Republicans, the Conservatives, the liberal are imposing. You know, I think it’s true. We do wetend to impose rather than ask people to come to their own conclusions. And Ithink when we do gently approach most people, we come to similar conclusions. Maybenot exactly the same, but we’re not like as far apart as people think. And mostpeople can come to a semi-aggreement if they’re not being intractable of theiroriginal, you know, dug in position. Um, you know, Charlie Kirk um was aChristian man who went around on campuses engaging people in debate. Never once did he threaten to killanybody. Never once did he suggest somebody should be killed, but he in, you know, he he engaged them in debateand used their words often to disprovewhat they were accusing him of or what they were trying to disabuse him of, you know. Um, and and and that form ofdebate is so very helpful in changing minds. Uh, it’s it’s it’s not theeasiest form of debate to use. You have to be very patient and you have to be willing to engage at someone else’slevel. You have to be willing to engage where they’re at, not where you’re at. And it’s a shame that we lost this manat age 31 because I do think he was doing good work. One of the things that amazed me was, and you you did thenumbers with Grock and with Google, at the time of his death, there were like 10,000 TPUSAum Turning Point USA chapters throughout the country in high schools and secondary schools. Um and and yet afterhis after his death the number of applications explodedand uh one source said like 120,000 another source said like 50,000 but itincrementally increased over a 3-week period of time. It did start at the 50 then to the 60 and then it blew up tothe yeah the 120,000 number was real and and I thinkyou know implicit in your question is it wise is you’re asking people to considerthe results of that action right so when when you when you ask the young lady isit wise to take all those Tylenol pills what you’re really asking her to do is what is the result going to be of youractions and are you willing to live with those action those results? Is it is it wise to risk those results? And I guesswhen I put it in context of the Charlie Kirk shooting, right? Umdo you think that the message of TPUSA is stronger or weaker two weeks afterCharlie Kirk’s assassination? Oh, obviously it’s much stronger. much moreum out there in all these various forms. Is that what the shooter wanted? Is thatwhat the shooter expected? Is that what the shooter was looking for as an outcome? No. It’s just like the guy in Texas thatshoots up an ICE facility and ends up killing a illegal immigrant that’s being detained and injuring two others and notharming any ICE agents. You know, sometimes you don’t get the results you’re looking for and thank God forthat. But I don’t think anybody should have been killed. But but even illegal immigrants. Isn’t that the applicationof your very simple admonition? Is it wise? Because this shooter,for whatever nefarious reasons he had for being angry at Charlotte Kirk, andI’ve I’ve heard more reasons that he was angry than than I can believe. But forwhatever this reason is, this individual wanted to silence Charlie Kirk. And ifyou would apply the question to him an hour before he pulled the trigger, is this wise? Maybe he would have thoughtthat the ramifications of taking Charlie Kirk’s life, which in and of itself isis a horrible thing. Charlie Kirk did nothing to this gentleman other thanpromote Christianity, promote belief in in Christ, and debate people in a civilmanner. And isn’t it isn’t it hard not hard? There’s no words to describe whenwhen when you don’t when you can’t debate someone to arrive at the at thelogical answer that your your answer is to end their life and end their ability to debate. That’s horrible. That’sthat’s that’s disastrous. That’s so that’s so evil is to be But my point isis that is it wise turned out to be 10,000you know, local uh organiz TPUSA organizations to 120,000 local TPA TPUSAum uh institutions. And one would argue that easily and and you could debatethis, but you know, wasn’t the action of taking Charlie’s Charlie Kirk’s lifedirectly attributable to doing exactly what you didn’t want to happen? Theshooter wanted to silence Charlie Kirk, but the net effect of his bullet to Charlie Kirk’s neck was10 or 12 times more number of chapters of TPUSA. Yeah, I’m reminded that theBible says Satan means it for evil and God means it for good. And there’s a perfect example. There’s another quickincident I’ll mention is a long time ago during the first Trump presidency. I was down in Florida. I was there with abunch of veterans for Trump raising money for a Republican uh guy at a Harley dealership. And we had thisfriend, you don’t know him, his name was uh Moose. And this guy was called Moosebecause he was big as a moose. He was a former Chicago cop, special forces, you know, kind of guy. Just, you know, hecould have crushed me with one hand. And so this woman comes walking in and sees the, you know, the fundraising isRepublican. She hates Republicans. She starts cursing, calling names, and Mooseturns around and starts going back at her. And I had to grab this guy. I mean, imagine little old be grabbing thiscould be, “Stop it. Stop it. You’re not going to convince this woman or convinceanyone who’s now standing around. If you start cursing at her, let her embarrassherself with her, you know, vitriol, vitriol, and and anger.” And and youknow that’s what we have to do too is we have to meet our opponents even whenthey’re angry with at least a calm demeanor. Now you have to defend yourself if they’recoming at you but if if it’s just words first remain calm because that just youknow first it gives you the opportunity to think as soon as you start getting wrapped up in the emotions of beingyelled at you can’t even think properly to respond. to just relax. It’s just words. And to ask a follow-on question,like first question I ask a lot of people, why are you so angry? And I’ll listen because everybody’s gota reason. Um but but that’s, you know, and often times when they give you the reason, butthat’s not me. Why are you taking right this out on me? Because somebody else was a jerk.Uh I’m not trying to be a jerk. So again, I think you know a lot a lot of times if uh we can only control our ownbehavior. We can’t control the behavior of others. And I just say that’s that’sanother thing we have to teach our children. Mike, when you were young, did you ever hear the phrase um and did you everrepeat the phrase, “Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me.”Sure. We all did. Have you heard that in anywhere in the last 20 years? Just repeated like you did now. We’retrying to bring that back to explain that to these people that go off the easy. And my point is is that why did wehave why did our generation, you and I as young people have that kind of thing,you know, as kids, we didn’t invent that. No. So, we had to hear it somewhere. Yeah.Right. And I don’t know if it were to the adults that taught it to us or the older children that taught it to us, butI remember hearing it often enough and repeating it often enough, you know, when somebody call you a name orwhatever, you know. And the other one was whatever you say, you know, bounc your glue, everything bounces off me andsticks to you. And and so the point the point I’m trying to make here is again it fitsright into your your simple but brilliant question. Is that wise? Because my point is is that words cannothurt us. It only hurts us if we let them hurt us. And even when you hear thosewords and you allow them to hurt you, do you ever hear the phrase they’re living rentree in your head? You know, and andso do you want someone to live rentree in your head? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? And you know, going back tothe common sense, where has the common sense gone? Where has the simple yet brilliant question,is that wise? Where has that gone? You know, months ago, maybe a year and ahalf ago, remember the Tide Pod challenge on Tik Tok? Kids would would chew Tide Pods, which is toxic. It’spoisonous. And they would chew them for for God knows what reason. And there are all these Tik Tok challenges that wereon the surface were idiotic, you know, yet people were doing it because why?because it was popular, because it was it got it got you eight eight seconds offame or something. I I have no idea. But is that wise? Right. Brilliant. Simple.Brilliant. I’m going to use that, Mike. I’m going to steal that from you and I’m going to use it again and again becauseI’ve stolen enough of your saying, so you’re free to take that one. I just love it. All right. Did we beatthis up enough or you think we we we you know we started off with a simplestatement that was so wise on your part so brilliant on your part yet so simple for anybody to understand is that wiseand I think a lot of life’s problems if we simply asked that question before we started to behave in any way butespecially in erratic way uh isn’t that a isn’t that a great question to get the answer to before you embark on whateverdecision you made. Yep. With that, I guess it’s Mac and Mike. Mac and Mike out.
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